HomeSealed wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 2:03 pm
Unless you are in a coastal application and worried about hurricanes, your consideration of DP as a factor is less about windspeeds, and more about being an indicator of strength and quality. Which do you think will last longer and perform better over its lifespan, a window that is DP35 or one that is DP50? Which is likely a better design, using better materials and tighter tolerances? That is the relevance of DP. Furthermore, you can throw the sash reinforcement into that equation as well. Even at the same DP, which window do you think is superior, one that gets a DP50 with no reinforcement, or the one that needs that reinforcement? And don't get me wrong, reinforcement is not a bad thing, I'm just saying that if I'm trying to determine which window is superior, that is something to consider as well.
As far as all of the numbers, here's one to think about. Over 10 years, the difference between these two is $25 per month. A good window will have a service life of 30+ years, but realistically not many people live in their homes that long so use a shorter period.
On the financing, I wouldn't expect the Provia guy to honor a cash or even credit card price for 0% 60 month financing. Most financing companies charge 15-20% of the total contract price as a dealer fee for a plan like that.
I see that you discounted Ricknez's comment, but I have to say that there is likely some truth there, we see people come through here ALL THE TIME
with similar sentiments. They care enough about making a good purchase that they are here researching and obsessing, yet they see that attractive price and they want some affirmation that it will be a good choice, but it rarely is.
As you stated in your first comment, I think you already know the answer. If you are going to do this, do it once and do it right. Otherwise if you can't justify the investment vs home value aspect, do the storm windows.
I was already offered the 0% financing for 5 years, so it wouldn't be unrealistic for them to do the same for the Aspect upgrade.
I'm sure the Ecolite is probably truly a $180 window, since the average cost of an install per window is $100 per opening, plus 20 in materials per, then the 20% plan fee, cost of labor, 40/hr with 2 staff at 15 per hour (Average wage for this in my area), in which they can offer that financing, plus throw coil wrap in for nothing extra. If the numbers are even close, that's a huge profit margin from 583 each, but they also have more staff than most of the other companies.
There is some truth regarding people becoming emotionally attached, but when you put the stats, side by side, with both only stating made with uPVC, no mention of densities, thicknesses etc. There's no possible way to know.
Okna has been sued and lost in a lawsuit about a false claim for their product in their reading material regarding materials, which may be why they changed their numbers in the brochure recently. There are companies that have a fund to settles things like this, if the profit outweighs the loss. ProVia had a lawsuit over their Warranty, which is just as bad, don't offer something if you won't honor it.
That's a red flag for both companies. Can I truly trust Okna if they say it's made out of materials X? Can I trust ProVia when they offer a 25 year warranty?
As I mentioned before I will go with Storm windows, and keep tabs on my OKNA and ProVia windows and then decide. Just look out for my post when I come back b****ing about the ProVia, then have a nice laugh.
I appreciate you taking the time to get back to me, I know you own a business, which requires loads of time and energy as it is.