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Old Aluminum Sliders

#1 Post by Charge8 » Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:06 am

Hello,

I am trying to figure out how to replace my old Aluminum slider windows with vinyl. I found plenty of people showing how to do it on stucco but I have asbestos shingle siding. I was wanting to remove the aluminum frame and start from there. I'm not sure which fin to use to get the best results? Also where could I get quality windows in the Kansas City, MO area?

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#2 Post by Windows on Washington » Tue Jun 18, 2013 11:51 am

What type of replacement are you thinking you are going to do?

Express = no nailing fin and set via a replacement frame.

New Construction = trimming back or removing the asbestos siding to get in a new nailing flange window.

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#3 Post by Charge8 » Tue Jun 18, 2013 2:10 pm

I don't want to disturb the siding. I would just like replacement windows but not sure if I should leave the aluminum frame in or not. I am finding conflicting info online

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#4 Post by HomeSealed » Tue Jun 18, 2013 4:52 pm

It depends on whether or not the existing aluminum window has a fin or not, and some other design features could sway that as well. If you are wanting to remove a finned window it will be very difficult to do without disturbing that siding to some extent even IF it has trim around it. From that perspective, a fin-less install would be the least problematic given the potential of dealing with hazardous materials.

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#5 Post by Charge8 » Tue Jun 18, 2013 6:47 pm

So something like a retrofit window would be best then?

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#6 Post by Windows on Washington » Wed Jun 19, 2013 6:15 am

In this application, the express install (fin-less insert frame) is probably your best.

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#7 Post by Charge8 » Wed Jun 19, 2013 9:08 am

Thanks for the help. Does anyone know where I can buy these windows without installation?

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#8 Post by TheWindowNerd » Thu Jun 20, 2013 6:07 pm

Try siding and roofing supply houses that will sell to the public.
This is a tuff install that I would not suggest for an amateur.
Also you need a trim brake and that skill set as well.

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#9 Post by Charge8 » Fri Jun 21, 2013 1:11 pm

Thanks for the reply! I was under the impression that the flush fin would sit on the exterior and just caulk around the edges? What is the trim brake for?

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#10 Post by TheWindowNerd » Fri Jun 21, 2013 4:12 pm

To bend aluminum trim coil to flash and or make the transition from the window to the siding.
Very common tool for window installation.

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#11 Post by Windows on Washington » Fri Jun 21, 2013 5:26 pm

This isn't the specific application but it shows you the tool and how things get worked.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sou0yDSHbdI

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#12 Post by donbanfords » Thu Aug 29, 2013 1:50 am

If you insist on vinyl, Simonton, Republic, Certainteed, etc make some good windows, but as in all manufacturers, they have different quality levels within their offerings. So it isn't enough to grab the name of a manufacturer, you need to examine the construction and specifications of each series. Be particularly careful about a window 10 feet wide.

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#13 Post by HomeSealed » Fri Aug 30, 2013 9:11 am

donbanfords wrote:If you insist on vinyl, Simonton, Republic, Certainteed, etc make some good windows, but as in all manufacturers, they have different quality levels within their offerings. So it isn't enough to grab the name of a manufacturer, you need to examine the construction and specifications of each series. Be particularly careful about a window 10 feet wide.
Good advice except for the products. Republic has been out of business since 08 or 09, and that operation has been bought and sold a few times, filed another BK, etc. Not the most stable situation from what I can tell.
http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/ ... ed-venture
According to the article above, it is now New Era Windows cooperative. Employee owned, hopefully they will do well.
Also, the current Certainteed line is a relabeled MI product.

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