Thermal Line Windows - THV Compozit
Thermal Line Windows - THV Compozit
Does anyone have experience with or knowledge of Thermal Line Windows THV Compozit Window - tlwindows.com
They have a triple glazed LowE2/Clear/LowE2 that appears to be very well made and specs are some of the best I've seen.
U-Value = .12
R- Value = 8.03
SHGC = .35
I'm currently considering a bid to replace 14 windows and a sliding door. Any feedback is greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Nate
They have a triple glazed LowE2/Clear/LowE2 that appears to be very well made and specs are some of the best I've seen.
U-Value = .12
R- Value = 8.03
SHGC = .35
I'm currently considering a bid to replace 14 windows and a sliding door. Any feedback is greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Nate
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Your numbers do seem to be incorrect some where. I still have their sample from the early 2000's. The window looks like cellular PVC similar to the Kolbe & Kolbe that was around for a while. We seriously looked at them and almost went aboard but found something closer to home that was an equal for less money. My sample has Swiggle and that was the straw for us. In all other respects we liked the product which at the time had some outstanding numbers. The minuses for us were they were pretty pushy and I don't like companies that use fuel savings pledges to hawk their wares. Their out of North Dakota and at the time we talked to them they wanted to charge us freight which is usually absorbed by the mfrg's, so we passed. It's a very nice window with good energy numbers with the down side of Swiggle. The price as I recall was quite high so you might want to do a little more shopping.
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The company website is wrong and misleading. They are referring to center of glass (the warmest spot, about the size of a quarter), not the enitre window, and intentionally misleading consumers like Nate. Watch how quickly they change it. Check the NFRC. Everyone has a website, and can say whatever they wish... but it doesn't make it factual.
Thanks for all the feedback. It doesn't appear to me that NFRC has the latest model listed but I agree the brochure is a little misleading by not showing overall window performance. For what it's worth here's the quote.
4 - 36x48 Double Hung
4 - 48x60 Double Hung
5 - 48x30 Slider
1 - 84x84 Picture - Tempered
1 - 5ft Sliding Door - Tempered
Total: $14,000
The other quote I have is from Thermal Industries for $11,400 which quoted dual pane, lowE with argon.
4 - 36x48 Double Hung
4 - 48x60 Double Hung
5 - 48x30 Slider
1 - 84x84 Picture - Tempered
1 - 5ft Sliding Door - Tempered
Total: $14,000
The other quote I have is from Thermal Industries for $11,400 which quoted dual pane, lowE with argon.
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True. Did you check out the Energy Savings Guarantee?FenEx wrote:The company website is wrong and misleading. They are referring to center of glass (the warmest spot, about the size of a quarter), not the enitre window, and intentionally misleading consumers like Nate. Watch how quickly they change it. Check the NFRC. Everyone has a website, and can say whatever they wish... but it doesn't make it factual.
It states the windows will pay for themselves in 8 years.
Lemme see here $14000/8 yrs=$1750 savings per year.
Wow!! Just by installing 12 windows and a 5' sliding door.
Nate:
Assuming there's nothing unusual about the installation you should be able to do better IMO. If nothing else, buy from a company that doesn't BS you with phoney energy savings guarantees.
Some of the brands the pro's on here like are Milgard, Simonton, Gorell to name just a few. Google the names. All have dealer locaters to find someone in your area.
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Center of Glass
Center of Glass = All areas of an I.G. unit excluding that area which is
2-1/2" from the edge.
2-1/2" from the edge.
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Re: Thermal Line Windows - THV Compozit
ok so i am bringing up some info
looking at the same windows yet i asked rolox aka thermaline for the nfrc values
they gave me their disclosure that shows the energy star rating and their GREAT numbers
not sure how to attach it here
energy star ratings
u value for tripleglass / double / energy star
casement= .18 / .26 / .35
DH= .21 / .28 /
slider .21 / .28
SHGC .20 / .24 EXCEEDS
VT .36 / .40
Insulated Glass Pack
u value .12 / .26
r-value 8.03 / 3.85
looking at the same windows yet i asked rolox aka thermaline for the nfrc values
they gave me their disclosure that shows the energy star rating and their GREAT numbers
not sure how to attach it here
energy star ratings
u value for tripleglass / double / energy star
casement= .18 / .26 / .35
DH= .21 / .28 /
slider .21 / .28
SHGC .20 / .24 EXCEEDS
VT .36 / .40
Insulated Glass Pack
u value .12 / .26
r-value 8.03 / 3.85
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Re: Thermal Line Windows - THV Compozit
Nothing really great about a 0.21 U-factor in a triple pane. There are sever double pane manufacturers that are getting in that range.
Competitive triple numbers are in the low teen's now.
Competitive triple numbers are in the low teen's now.
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Re: Thermal Line Windows - THV Compozit
If you are comfortable buying windows from a company that has gone bankrupt twice in the last 10 years, then this may be the window for you.
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Re: Thermal Line Windows - THV Compozit
well it is locally called rolox here in the kansas city area. I had bought the triple panes before from them.
But I am having a soft lite? rep come out tomorrow night
Did thermalline buy out thv or the other way round?
THV THERMALine or ROLOX gave me a previous customer quote of
$581 any window.. and I was going to do 5 windows to lock the price in. So $2905 for the 5 35x64 windows.
So for 22x581=$12782.
I have 29 total
10-35x64 (bedrooms, attic) (2 w/grilles)-
2-35x70 living room-
1-half circle over 2-35x70 w/grilles-
1-48x49 big square fixed in bathroom-
2-31x34 small windows in closet w/grilles-
1 31x34 small window in kitchen-
2-22x70 dining room muttons-
1-34x70 dining room muttons-
1-24x50 small fixed over entry muttons-
1-34x70 entry w/grilles-
Plan to just replace the IGU's for the ones below and have had several quotes from local glass companies and it will be $1100
3-38x80 fixed kitchen-
4-38x22 fixed kitchen-
But I am having a soft lite? rep come out tomorrow night
Did thermalline buy out thv or the other way round?
THV THERMALine or ROLOX gave me a previous customer quote of
$581 any window.. and I was going to do 5 windows to lock the price in. So $2905 for the 5 35x64 windows.
So for 22x581=$12782.
I have 29 total
10-35x64 (bedrooms, attic) (2 w/grilles)-
2-35x70 living room-
1-half circle over 2-35x70 w/grilles-
1-48x49 big square fixed in bathroom-
2-31x34 small windows in closet w/grilles-
1 31x34 small window in kitchen-
2-22x70 dining room muttons-
1-34x70 dining room muttons-
1-24x50 small fixed over entry muttons-
1-34x70 entry w/grilles-
Plan to just replace the IGU's for the ones below and have had several quotes from local glass companies and it will be $1100
3-38x80 fixed kitchen-
4-38x22 fixed kitchen-